{"id":215,"date":"2023-07-25T18:17:40","date_gmt":"2023-07-25T18:17:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ventil.rs\/blog\/life-style\/how-the-indigo-girls-brought-barbie-closer-to-fine\/"},"modified":"2023-07-25T18:17:40","modified_gmt":"2023-07-25T18:17:40","slug":"how-the-indigo-girls-brought-barbie-closer-to-fine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ventil.rs\/blog\/life-style\/how-the-indigo-girls-brought-barbie-closer-to-fine\/","title":{"rendered":"How the Indigo Girls Brought Barbie \u2018Closer to Fine\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/07\/11\/magazine\/greta-gerwig-barbie.html\" title=\"\">Greta Gerwig\u2019s Barbieland<\/a>, where every day is the best day ever, pop stars like Lizzo, Dua Lipa and Charli XCX provide a bouncy soundtrack as the live-action dolls go about their cheery, blissful lives. That is, until Margot Robbie\u2019s \u201cstereotypical\u201d Barbie cues a record scratch with a rare and shocking existential query: \u201cDo you guys ever think about dying?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">To resolve this disruption to her otherwise perfect life, she hops in her pink Corvette and belts along to a track filled with strummed acoustic guitars and close harmonies. \u201cThere\u2019s more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked line,\u201d she sings with a smile, before thrusting a manicured pointer in the air.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Barbie\u2019s song of choice on her way to the Real World is the <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HUgwM1Ky228\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Indigo Girls\u2019 \u201cCloser to Fine.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The Indigo Girls, a folk duo from Georgia who have released 15 studio albums since 1987, featured \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d as the opening track on their self-titled 1989 LP. Emily Saliers wrote the song after she and her fellow singer and guitarist, Amy Ray, graduated from Emory University in Atlanta and were regularly playing a local bar called the Little Five Points Pub. It became a staple of the Girls\u2019 live show that spread thanks to college radio play and an opening slot on tour with another Georgia band, R.E.M.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It\u2019s a song about seeking, Saliers said by phone this month: \u201cI searched here and I searched there, and if I just try to take it easy and get a little bit of knowledge and wisdom from different sources, then I\u2019m going to be closer to fine.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cCloser to Fine,\u201d with its four-chord verses, octave-jumping chorus and slightly inscrutable lyrics, has been a staple of dorm room singalongs, karaoke excursions and car rides for years, and it is the Indigo Girls\u2019 most identifiable tune. \u201cIndigo Girls,\u201d their first album for a major label, went double platinum and won a Grammy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s got a very easy melody and really easy chorus, and the chorus repeats,\u201d Saliers said. \u201cWhen you get to a chorus of a song that you\u2019re into and you can just sing it at the top of your lungs, I think just structurally, melodically, it\u2019s really a road trip song and I think that\u2019s why you see it in those kinds of scenes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ray said \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d represents 80 percent of the band\u2019s licensing, but the duo are generally told very little about how their music will be used. They don\u2019t allow commercials, but have had successful soundtrack and onscreen placements in films like \u201cPhiladelphia\u201d and TV shows including \u201cThe Office\u201d and \u201cTransparent.\u201d In 1995, the duo starred as Whoopi Goldberg\u2019s house band in the movie \u201cBoys on the Side.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI think it was really important at that time for us to reach more people,\u201d Ray said in a phone interview. \u201cThose kinds of things are just invaluable for an artist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The Indigo Girls have a similar hope for \u201cBarbie,\u201d already a global phenomenon with powerhouse marketing and intergenerational brand recognition. A \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d cover by Brandi and Catherine Carlile appears on the expanded edition of the movie\u2019s soundtrack.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI always felt that song was really defining of who they were in that era,\u201d Brandi Carlile said in an interview. \u201cThat, even more than lesbians, what they were was intellectuals. They were offering up a life beyond the life that young people knew. And it\u2019s a very young person\u2019s song,\u201d she added. \u201cIt\u2019s about seeking out more than you thought you believed.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Still, given little context in an initial call from their manager, Saliers said she was nervous. \u201cI didn\u2019t know who was directing it or anything, and I was like, \u2018Oh, this is about Barbie? We better check to make sure this is kosher,\u2019\u201d she recalled. \u201cBut as it turned out, it\u2019s in the hands of Greta and it\u2019s just this amazing thing that happened. It was a complete surprise to me and Amy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ray called it a gift: \u201cIt\u2019s just absolutely wonderful that they\u2019re using it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cCloser to Fine\u201d recurs in the film three times and appears in its official trailer, but it\u2019s been recirculating in pop culture organically, too. In March, a video of the comedian Tig Notaro singing it on a party bus alongside a crew that included Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach and Sarah Paulson <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Cprd25KD81Z\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">blew up online<\/a>. The band\u2019s latest album, \u201cLook Long,\u201d arrived in 2020, and they have been on a tour (typically closing with the tune) that touches down in Ireland and Britain next month.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cYou don\u2019t imagine a folk lesbian duo to be in this hot-pink Barbie movie,\u201d said Notaro, who has been a fan since seeing the \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d video on MTV\u2019s alternative rock show \u201c120 Minutes.\u201d \u201cKind of just selfishly and personally, I feel like, \u2018Yeah, we were onto something all these years,\u2019 you know? It\u2019s validating. Obviously it\u2019s been a huge hit forever, but this is so next level.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWhen I hear a song like that,\u201d she added, \u201cit feels like just my chest bursts open with joy and hope.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The Indigo Girls are also the subject of a documentary, \u201cIt\u2019s Only Life After All,\u201d directed by Alexandria Bombach, which <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/festival.sundance.org\/program\/film\/638a1a50d406b2bcbbf2d474\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">premiered at Sundance in January<\/a>. The film serves as a reminder of how Saliers and Ray, both openly queer and from religious Southern backgrounds, endured scrutiny and prejudice as \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d put them in an early spotlight.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cFor the longest time I always felt we were the brunt of lesbian jokes in kind of a lowest common denominator,\u201d Saliers says in the documentary. Ray echoed those sentiments in the film, saying, \u201cIt seemed like the most derogatory thing you could be is a female gay singer-songwriter.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Critics would refer to them as too earnest or overly pretentious, if they covered them at all. The duo were used to comic effect on \u201cSaturday Night Live\u201d and \u201cSouth Park\u201d; even Ellen DeGeneres employed them as a punchline after her character came out on national television on her sitcom \u201cEllen.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThat time period that really was just so critical of women \u2014 of queer women, of women that didn\u2019t present the way that a patriarchal system wanted them to,\u201d Bambach said. \u201cI think it\u2019s a really critical time for us to be looking back at, you know, just things that we scoffed or laughed off or said were OK.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Brandi Carlile said after watching the duo take so many shots over the years, the \u201cBarbie\u201d moment is extra sweet. \u201cThe real injustice of how the Indigo Girls have been treated throughout these last few decades is that they\u2019ve been used as kind of this dog whistling acceptable way to sort of parody lesbians, and I always felt destabilized by it,\u201d she said. \u201cAnd so seeing something like this happen for them on this scale and watching them and that iconic kind of life-affirming song make its way to new ears is probably one of the coolest things I\u2019ve seen in years.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The singer-songwriter Katie Pruitt, 29, found the Indigo Girls in high school but further embraced them in college, when she said their music gave her the confidence to write personal and descriptive lyrics from her experiences as a gay woman.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cRepresentation in culture is the biggest, the single most important thing I think for people to fully embrace themselves,\u201d she said. \u201cYou need all these different examples of who you\u2019re allowed to be, and the answer is anybody \u2014 you\u2019re allowed to be anybody.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Pruitt called \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d the \u201cnorthern star\u201d of songwriting. \u201cIt\u2019s incredible that it\u2019s having a resurgence in 2023\u201d in \u201ca franchise that I grew up associating with extreme heteronormativity,\u201d she said. \u201cI love how now they\u2019re rebranding it as something incredibly inclusive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Bambach, who discovered the Indigo Girls during singalongs led by counselors at youth summer camp, saw \u201cBarbie\u201d on opening weekend in Atlanta and said there were screams of joy and recognition when \u201cCloser to Fine\u201d played onscreen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s very gratifying to think that there\u2019s something that this very fine director saw in the song that had cultural relevance in this day and time,\u201d Saliers said. But above all, she appreciates that time has allowed listeners to step back and appreciate the band\u2019s music as simply music.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWe\u2019re finally allowed to just be us,\u201d Saliers said. \u201cI guess we\u2019ve stuck around long enough and it\u2019s like, \u2018Oh, it\u2019s just Amy and Emily.\u2019 We no longer are the brunt of a joke and we\u2019re flourishing in certain ways in terms of this relevancy, which is gratifying. It\u2019s strange, you know, to watch culture change and move \u2014 and it really has changed for us.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><script async defer src=\"https:\/\/platform.instagram.com\/en_US\/embeds.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/07\/24\/arts\/music\/barbie-indigo-girls-closer-to-fine.html\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In Greta Gerwig\u2019s Barbieland, where every day is the best day ever, pop stars like Lizzo, Dua Lipa and Charli XCX provide a bouncy soundtrack as the live-action dolls go about their cheery, blissful lives. 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